Was there for the unvail and they are all really nice machines. Don't think I'd ever need the four seater, but the new X model will be in the garage as soon as I can get it. They said something about them being available or ready for orders on Oct. 22. I don't think the 4 seater will be out until 2014 from what they were saying. They said the base model (1000R) will be "The same price as a competitor" at $15,999.00.